Wednesday, 15 June 2011 09:59

Clannad ~After Story~

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Clannad ~After Story~

Saddest show ever T_T

x264 1920x1080p ~3.5Mbps
x264 1280x720p ~xMbps (This will be the first encode in H10p (10-bit) and is being worked on)

5.1Ch Japanese FLAC 48.0KHz
2.0Ch English AAC 48.0KHz

RAW Source:
Original Encode



Coming Soon...


Episode 19 and Standalone OP:
Fixes and issue with default tracks on EP19 and fixes incorrect embedded fonts on OP.[Elysium]Clannad~After.Story~EP19v2.OPv2[PATCH].exe
Place patch file into the same folder as the release and run



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# jemhuntr | 2016-06-04 19:57
Guys can any good person seed this anime again? :<

(Or at least give me a working Mega link or something)
# Neorok | 2013-04-01 11:49
Sorry for dropping it just like that here. This is a great anime that i wish to re-download for a re-watch and archiving. I chose your release but can't seem to get any seeding via nyaa torrents. Is there a way to boost things a bit.
# abit | 2011-12-29 12:35
This is a little strange. For some reason, the first 10 episodes hang when opening using MPC-HC, but work perfectly fine in VLC Player. The same thing happened with the 1080p Sora no Woto encode...all the files just hung when opening, yet VLC can open it fine.

Nothing fancy I'm using either...just MPC-HC with Haali media splitter.

These two have been the only things I've had problems with. Other encodes the group has done have been fine. A little strange.
# abit | 2011-12-29 12:48
n/m....must be something screwy on my desktop that affects those files. I tried playing back episode 1 of After Story on my laptop and it played fine.
# Zash | 2011-11-20 09:26
Still waiting for the 720p release ^_^
# Mister | 2011-11-12 13:24
Thanks guys, I really enjoyed this anime! But for me the english audio was slightly out of synch, nothing serious but it was quite noticeable. It is just me? I watched it with VLC.
# sunfizz98 | 2011-08-29 20:36
I already have the 1080p release of it worth jumping the ship for the 720p 10bit release?
# Revenant | 2011-08-30 07:19
Depends on your personal preferences. If you are fine with the 1080p's filesize, you won't miss out on anything. Just stay with it. The size already is pretty neat, I think.
The 720p will be smaller by a bit, but won't look "better" or anything.
# schirkos | 2011-08-01 07:35
When can we expect the 720p release?
# Revenant | 2011-08-12 17:43
On it, but H10p is still a little experimental, until I decided what to go for.
Your eyes might explode due to its awesomeness tho!
# asd | 2011-07-22 20:06
Why an .exe instead of a zip folder with a .bat?

6/43... very suspicious.
# Vox | 2011-07-31 11:19
The .bat file and xdelta patch files are just bundled into an .exe for the sake of convinience and simplicity. Running the .exe extracts the files, runs the patch, and then cleans up after it's done. The file is safe.
# HaXeri | 2011-07-10 07:05
Can someone tell the audio bitrates?
# sunfizz98 | 2011-07-02 08:07
Excellent release! Will this be added to AniDB?
# Masat01 | 2011-06-21 18:41
I loved it. Played flawlessly on the blu-ray player as do most all of your releases. Quality was excellent.
# nig | 2011-06-21 00:14
Quite a lot of banding, even in bright scenes. All the space wasted by including the dub would have been better spent on video quality. Sorry, but this release is just bad.
# Ametatsu | 2011-06-21 00:30
If you took a look at the original BDs, you'll see that there's actually already a surprisingly high amount of banding on the original. Obviously compression will have intensified it a slight bit, but there's almost no place where banding was introduced. Not one of the better BDs I've seen...

I could have gone with a higher bitrate and reduced the banding a bit, but that takes away the reasonable file sizes. If you are looking for a pixel perfect encode. Sorry... there's plenty of other groups =\ On the other hand, if you are looking for the best subs and best overall viewing experience (unless you are 3 inches from your monitor examining pixels)... stick around :P
# nig | 2011-06-21 00:58
hmm I'll take your word for it that the originals are bad. Out of the shows I've seen, yours have always had the best video quality. Sorry for posting such a negative comment. I'll stick with your release
# Ametatsu | 2011-06-21 00:59
No problem. Criticism is always allowed here :P
# whiic | 2011-06-22 16:34
Color banding it not "3 inches from monitor" type of defect in quality. It's seriously macroscopic. In fact it's one of the few encoding mishaps that are actually macroscopic enough... yet it can still be "perfect" by... say, BakaBT standards for example. "Perfect" as in original. And sometimes original = SHIT. No encoder skips de-interlacing and use "perfection" as an excuse for laziness.

In the old days people dealt with all sorts of rainbowing with TV-rips, etc. Best experience wins. Now, many encoders attempt to match original, and replicate defects of the original perfectly. This some also means encoders only pump up the bitrate without a limit (*cough* CGi *cough*) instead of doing video processing to make it look good. I think it's sad trend. De-banding REALLY doesn't take that much extra space considering that it fixes a macroscopic defect of the source video. And "not wanting to make the encode big" is a joke when using FLACebo.
# Ametatsu | 2011-06-22 16:43
Part of the reason this project took so long was because of the fact I played with debanding the source so much. The fact still remains that you still need so much bitrate for x264 to actually show results. And in my test results, to get the debanding to actually take effect enough for it to be noticeable required too much bitrate for the file size I'm trying to shoot for. I can do all I want with debanding and filters and applying dithering to the bands etc... but that doesn't take away the need for a higher bitrate in order to see the changes.
# nice! | 2011-06-19 08:00
Thanks for the release! It looks great and file size is right! I think more groups are trending towards your approach these days of of not competing based on single screenshots whose differences are unnoticeable while actually watching the video. You are leading the pack!
# SPB | 2011-06-18 18:24
the default settings for 19 are eng audio on and subtitles off. i'm not sure if any other episodes are like that.

other than that the only problem (if you could even call it that) is the clean ed is the second one (i think) but that only means less characters show up so it isn't a big deal.

thanks for doing this. looking forward to season 1, if you do it.
# Ametatsu | 2011-06-18 23:13
The EP19 problem.... I think that's just you :P It's working fine for me
# SPB | 2011-06-19 03:56
that's weird, i've never had a problem like this before. the crc is fine but i'll try out the ddl when it is up and see if the problem persists.
# Ametatsu | 2011-06-20 18:42
Sorry, there actually is a problem.. I'll be release a patch for it in a bit
# SPB | 2011-06-22 21:48
thanks for the patch
# raxar | 2011-06-18 00:04
at last it's done, now the last thing I need to do is waiting for the 720p..hope it will be fast. >.
# Tori | 2011-06-17 22:54
After several hundred refreshes, it's here! Thank you for all the work~
# RZ 1 | 2011-06-16 09:30
you´re gonna make me watch it again xD
thx for your great work ^^

btw: do you plan to sub season 1?
or are there already some good 1080p subs?
# Technoid | 2011-06-14 03:01
Thx A Lot For Picking This Anime And One More Thing As You Are Also Aiming For Its Season 1 Will You Also Be Doing Its Movie
With Regards
# Dizz | 2011-06-04 05:42
Cg and Doki's works are out now. But I'm willing to wait for your release. ;) I just can't wait to re-watch Clannad AS... LoL Just hope it'll be done ASAP.
# Mirari | 2011-05-30 01:12
Ametatsu dear, can you please hurry the hell up with this. The comparison war at BakaBT is starting, if you so not hurry we cannot compare yours. And we need to have this to compare otherwise the damn offers are going to be stalled over 4 goddamn months. *sigh~ So please release or drop the project. :P
Its been over a month since this post was made. >_>
Wednesday, 27 April 2011 09:59
it is now..
Monday, 30 May 2011 03:10
# Ametatsu | 2011-05-31 02:55
Well.. i would love to get this our as fast as possible. However, we do quality releases, not speed releases. And the BakaBT community getting impatient will have absolutely no effect on my release schedules at all. We are not here to please some BakaBT mods, but for people who really believe that our releases are the best.
# 大将 | 2011-05-20 22:26
There are more scenes like that, more easily spotted during the "girl in the lonely world" thingy. Even ReinForce that used a generous bitrate, similar to Thora, looks bad as Doki. Doki seemed to improve in AS encodes, didn't spot till now the horrible banding, it's much better (only checked a few episodes). I don't know anything about encoding, just pointing that out, as I LOVE Clannad and I'd like yours to be the best possible encode to archive, without going to the lengths of getting BD remuxes. Just ending up with something similar to Thora would be good enough (without overfiltering and keeping the original grain). Well, too long of a comment. Just wanted to say that if it can be of any use :P. Another thing, for the OP/ED lyrics, use the TL from later episodes, as Eclipse improved a bit the TL later on. That's all and thanks for reading
# 大将 | 2011-05-20 22:25
Nice. Another Clannad encode. Till now Thora is by far the best, too bad they seem dead and only did Clannad (not AS). Just wanted to say, if you're encoding Clannad, make sure it's THE encode and not just "another" encode for the pile :P. I've checked all encodes including raws I could download, and only Thora got it right. The rest have notable banding/color gradient/howeve r it's called issues (among others, but those are the most apparent). They are more obvious in dark areas. Example:

Doki (note the HORRIBLE banding in the dark areas)

Thora (gradients are nice and are MUCH better)

(long comment, continues)
# Flow | 2011-05-20 09:15
How about using R1 subs? Or could you at least add it as an alternate track? That will make your release better than the others! ;p
# Ametatsu | 2011-05-20 10:58
Sorry, it's just not worth the trouble. SS-Eclipse's subs are pretty damn good for this show imo.

We still have dual audio which no other group is offering right now
# someone | 2011-05-21 12:52
joseole99 is doing dual audio
# Southrop | 2011-06-21 18:07
I believe you're mistaken there. STD has been doing dual audio from the beginning.
# Ametatsu | 2011-06-21 20:31
And I believe you are correct. My mistake for not noticing either of them :)
# Tori | 2011-04-29 12:49
At first i learned Coalgirls were doing this;prepared to download Coalgirl's. Then I learned Doki would also; scratch Coalgirls out, I'm waiting for Doki. Now I learn that ElysiumSubs are also preparing this show; now scratching Doki out of the picture.
# sunfizz98 | 2011-05-20 10:56
Yep, thought the same way too.
# Sherine | 2011-04-28 06:39
Why are the raw file sizes so big? D:
# Ametatsu | 2011-04-28 07:06
Because they are direct BD Rips and BDs are big...
# Sherine | 2011-04-28 12:51
Yeah they are normally big, but they usually come around to 20GB or 30GB for all the episodes. I've never seen one that was 203GB...
# ElysiumSubs | 2011-04-28 12:53
One episode on a BD is about 8GB each.. not sure what you are talking about :P
# Sherine | 2011-04-28 15:39
Hmm... well I never ripped anime off a BD before so I didn't know. The other Clannad raws I found were a lot smaller. I guess I'm just a little confused.
# Ametatsu | 2011-04-28 18:17
That's because a direct rip of a BD is huge. BDs can hold up to 50GB after all, and even then they still have multiple discs...

Those that you are seeing are ones that have been encoded to smaller file sizes, meaning that there is loss from the original BD quality. Which is why I encode directly from the BD source, that way we don't release a "re-encode" of another encode.
# Sherine | 2011-04-28 20:42
Thanks. I always wondered why some animes only had 1 or 2 episodes a disk. I had no idea the sizes were so huge.
# fercilu | 2011-04-27 11:14
I think I saw english dubbed version of it somewhere on the net. (or at least some episode). So I'm asking, was there a dubbed version actually released? (so, should I wait to hear the dub on your release, or I shouldn't pu up my hopes).
# Ametatsu | 2011-04-27 11:20
Looks like English dubs do exist from Sentai. I haven't had much luck finding them though... If I can get ahold of them before this release, then you can expect them to be in there.
# random | 2011-04-27 13:07
I'd prefer it without. Sentai's dub just isn't good and isn't worth the extra filesize.
# Ametatsu | 2011-04-27 14:04
We'll always all dual audio when available. If the FLAC becomes too big, I'll probably convert it to AAC.
# crisialo | 2011-04-28 10:40
pls don´t convert it to aac or pls convert only the dub stream to aac
# ElysiumSubs | 2011-04-28 12:54
Only the dub.. Jpn audio will always be FLAC
# whiic | 2011-05-04 20:43
I'd prefer ALL audio tracks (single audio or dual) to be high bitrate AAC instead of FLACebo. Coalgirls release for example will be 2290 kBit/s for video, 1492 kBit/s for audio (indistinguisha ble from high bitrate AAC). I'd like to avoid that but there isn't even a choice since ALL groups release FLAC for 1080p. When audio takes more than half of 1080p video's bandwidth, there's SERIOUSLY something wrong with it. Raising the video bandwidth make audio bandwidth seem relatively more sensible but it's only wise to some point, depending on the source video quality.

But, it's youir encode, your choice. I'll have to screenshot compare it to joseole99 since that's the only competitor with dual audio (also identical bitrates to what you plan on releasing.
# Revenant | 2011-08-12 16:58
I personally agree with the AAC > FLAC part, especially for the 720p's I'm gonan be doing soon.
In light of my new 10-bit style I'm looking into lowering Encode-Size by a huge bunch, to even further strengthen Elysium-Subs policy of non-bloated, small and sexy crisp encodes.

Future 720p's by me will probably shrink in size considerably thanks to this and I hope the haters are gonan hate and everyone else is free to watch it or leave it.
# fercilu | 2011-04-28 00:28
Thanks the answer. I prefer all-dub versions. just in case. :D